13. Balancing Corporate Work, Freelance Hustles, and Fatherhood with Guest Britton Lorentzen

Ever wondered what it’s like to juggle a thriving career, a freelance business, and a newborn baby—all while staying inspired to help others?  

In this episode of Caffeinated Chaos, I sit down with Britton Lorenzen, a design and development expert who’s redefining what it means to balance business and family. By day, he’s crafting digital experiences for T-Mobile, and by night, he’s running Empac Design, his freelance business.  

Britton’s journey from corporate life to entrepreneurship is not just inspiring; it’s relatable for all of us navigating work, dreams, and family life.  

In this episode, we dive into:  

• How Britton transitioned from corporate life to pursuing his entrepreneurial dreams.  
• The unique ways he helps small businesses stand out in a competitive market. 
• Balancing a demanding career with a newborn and the lessons learned along the way.  
• Expert tips on web design, site optimization, and making your online presence pop. 
• The emotional “why” behind Britton’s business journey and his dream of creating more family time.  

Connect with Britton Lorenzen: 

• Email: britton@empac.co
• Facebook/Instagram/Youtube/Linkedin/ Tik Tok & Twitter: @emeraldpacific
• Website: https://empac.co

If you’re a parentpreneur looking for tips on balancing it all—or you just want to hear how someone else navigates the beautiful chaos—you won’t want to miss this episode.  

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Today we're chatting with Britton Lorenzen, a creative powerhouse who's shaking up the digital world with his blend of design, front end development, and marketing magic. By day he's crafting experiences for T Mobile and by night he's building Impact, his freelance business that's leveling the playing field for small businesses. We'll be diving into his journey from corporate grind to entrepreneurship, the strategies that he's using to help small businesses compete with pros, and the hilarious chaos of running a business while raising a very tiny human. If you're ready for some inspiration, actionable steps, and just the right dose of chaos? Let's get into it. Let's dive on in. Welcome to the podcast. Thank you for joining us. Okay. So I know that you have a little one at home. I also have a little one, but yours is like, Much younger than mine. Right. She's brand new. Yeah. Yeah. She's like teeny teeny tiny. I mean, literally just came home with us like a month ago. So really big change, in our lives. So I'm trying to figure out how do we navigate, our day with this little one now, just knowing that, you know, there's so much attention that she needs making sure that she's getting fed, making sure that, we're giving her the attention that she needs on top of, all the crazy stuff that both my wife and I have going on where, fortunately, my day job, I'm able to step away and. Focus on little one, but also at the same time trying to build up my own freelancing on the side and see if there's something I can, be able to figure out over there while I have the time off with a little one. Cool. Yeah. Tell us a little bit more about your freelance job. Like what are you building? What's your vibe, but what's your core values Yeah, so what I'm building on the side is Impact Design, so we focus primarily on web design, web development, along with digital marketing, and there's like sprinkles of branding that we do here and there. And really the big thing that we focus on is a lot of the corporate work that I've done, so more specifically, like a little bit of time I was working at Apple. Doing some things internally that unfortunately, like I can't really talk about, otherwise the Apple police will come and get me, but also, Oh, absolutely not. And they, they might exist. I'm not gonna, lay out secrets like that, but yeah, another company also working with T Mobile and doing a lot of like web design and web development with them. So really the main goal with like impact and what I'm trying to do is take a lot of the learnings that I've had from corporate environments and apply them to small businesses, well, small to medium sized businesses, because sometimes I feel like they're at a disadvantage where a lot of the time they don't really have like the capital, they don't have, the resources that these bigger companies do. So being able to bring a little bit of that almost tribal knowledge from larger environments or larger corporations that give small businesses a bit of a head start, or at least a bit of a fighting chance against them. I love that. The way that I started my business, almost two years ago now is my friend. One of my best friends started a candle company and she just needed help. And I had a full time job. And at the time I had my first, daughter was still a year old. And so I would go to, I would go to all the pop up markets with her. I would help her with making stuff on Canva, like setting up an organizational system and all that. And it just turned into somebody would come up to her and be like, Oh, how'd you do that? Or like, how'd you do this? And she's like, Oh, Whitney, just ask Whitney, and it just turned into. Everyone go ask Whitney and I was just like helping them. I became friends with them and I was just like helping them. And then, one lady is like, I told my friend to contact you, but you should charge her. Cause you don't know her. And I was like, I'm happy to help. My high school teacher used to tell us like move forward, but reach back and pull the next person up. It just turned into this thing where so many people were asking that I was like, I should be charging for this. And, we keep our prices relatively low because just like you, we want to help those small to medium sized businesses who don't have a lot of the, like access to resources. That's our whole thing too, is we want to not gatekeep. We want to make sure that when one of us rises, we pull others up, so we all rise together, you know? And so I feel like that's such a strong, like core value to have in a business. And I love that, it's part of yours as well. Oh yeah. And it's funny because kind of like bringing people up, that's a big thing of what I'm actually starting to work on at the moment. So recently and trying to ramp things up, I've been working with like the chambers of commerce. So recently went to a couple different networking events for different chambers around the South Seattle region, trying to figure out like what is like some of those problems that businesses are running into and trying to figure out because a lot of the times it's not really like the website because so many people have websites at this point. Where it's like, they have a son, daughter, they have, some relative, some uncle, aunt, whatever, that is like building a website for them, and that's kind of like how they get started. And for the most part, a lot of it is actually pretty good, what they've put together. And now it's trying to figure out, okay, if it's not bringing in business, There's some requirements that we can make and there's some different, you know, there's some changes that we can implement to try to, bring in a little bit of that traffic along with any kind of digital marketing, anything that we have to do on the social front, anything within like search engines and trying to optimize content for stuff like that. So I'm trying to identify the solution isn't always, you need a whole new website. There's a lot of like web designers that go out there and it's like, you need something completely brand new because I know what I'm doing. It's like, well, there's a lot of services out there that actually allow small businesses to get it already a good standing, but now it's that next step of getting some of that specialized support or some of that consultation, as far as how do we move from point A to point B and actually get some more clients and customers in. Right. And it's not. All about just looking pretty it's the strategy and the optimization, like you said, behind the website too, I feel like a lot of people when they start off with their small business wants to make everything look pretty, you know, cause then it looks put together. You can have a very basic website, but if it's driving traffic and converting the traffic, then I mean, that's what you really want. You want to convert to sales. Yeah. And it's funny because, oddly enough, the more simple a website is, as far as like from a user experience, the higher it actually performs and converts. Sometimes businesses come in and it's like, you know, I want these animations. I want all these different things. I want to be able to do X, Y, and Z. That's like, okay, whoa, whoa, whoa, like taking a step back a little bit, like trying to uncover, what are some of those business goals? What are some of those objectives? And actually, like trying to figure out, like, what is it that you're trying to do with this website? Before we even start looking at, how do we make it prettier? How do we make it do, fancy stuff we needed to get actually, bringing people in first, before we start figuring out, okay, how can we kind of level it up a little bit and maybe bring up the quality? Nice. So if you could give. A person starting there. They got a basic website. What would you suggest would be a good, actionable first step for them as far as, trying to get more eyeballs or trying to, optimize their site, And make it, it doesn't have to be technical. It can just be something like if I was to open a website today, not really knowing as much as you do, obviously, what's something small that business owners could do today. Yeah. I would say a lot of the time it actually comes down to content. So sometimes a business owner will come in, they'll kind of regurgitate everything or talk about like, we're a family business. It's 20 years. They start focusing on what they provide. Yeah. And sometimes when they start regurgitating or throwing up that information, they actually lose track of some of the why behind what they do, or why is it that someone should care? So usually a first step that I'll always talk with the business about is figuring out basically three steps. So why, what, and how, so why should someone care about what you provide? What is it that you provide? And then how do we get started? So a lot of the time it's just, figuring out the why behind what you do and actually being able to communicate benefits and trying to, in a way revise and edit some of that information that they have already on the website. Once you're able to start converting it to more so like benefits. And reasons why someone should care about what you provide. That's already going to help you out tremendously for your business. Yeah, that's a good, that's good advice. And then just to add on top of that is the whole saying, I do this versus you need, or do you want to build your business by X, Y, Z. Instead of saying, I help businesses build X, Y, Z. So like putting the consumer and giving them the visualization of what they can accomplish. If they invest in you and your services too. I think that's really important that sometimes people need to learn to step out of themselves and kind of like, would you buy from yourself? I mean, honestly, like when it comes to like, understandably, a lot of us are like excited about our business and we want to talk about what we can do for someone. But yeah, it's almost as a small business owner and sometimes like in the beginning, I've even fallen into this trap where I'm talking about these are all the cool things I can do for you. And then starting to figure out, okay, is that person going to care? Like, cool, you can do this, but like, how are you going to help me out? So it's really trying to identify, okay, I need to better communicate. And along with my clients need to better communicate, what is that value? What is that purpose? And what's that benefit to get people to start caring? Nice. Okay. So we talked a little bit about your business. Let's get a little personal. Okay. So what Was the reason that you started your business. Was there something like internally, for me, I was building, like, I knew that I wanted to build more time into spending with my daughter who was really, really young at that point. So yeah, that was my why. And also reaching back and pulling people forward with me. So yeah, let's get personal. What's your why? Oh, yeah. Yeah. And so interesting enough, like Emerald, well, it used to be called Emerald Pacific. What impact design is now, it actually started way back in 2010. So I grew up in a family that a lot of what we did was run our own businesses and almost kind of like be our own bosses. So like my dad grew up and for the most part, we were a blue collar family. He did like a bunch of towing services and it started off funny enough, him doing demolition Derby and his friends, like we would go like demo Derby with them and then they would all crash their cars. So he was the only one with a tow truck at the time. So they would reach out to him and be like, Hey, can you tow our car? So within kind of that same vein of kind of what happened with you, where it was like, it started with one person and, you know, two, three, five, 10, he started figuring out, okay, maybe I should start actually charging these people for this stuff. So that's a little bit of what I grew up in my experiences where it was just being part of entrepreneurial family and started Emerald Pacific, primarily as an action sports brand. So I did a lot of media work. I did a lot of just kind of like, In a way it was almost like community outreach because there was a lot of like local skaters and BMX rider that weren't really like getting the recognition that they deserve for their talents. So I was trying to figure out a way, okay, like my way of giving back to the community and being able to provide a service to help'em out, more so is like, getting a GoPro. And at the time, like I was dabbling a little bit. Just because I had to actually build a website for my racing team as I was growing up, that was one of the big things that we did was actually, we were, this racing family that would go all around the place, started off and go karts, moved up into like mini sprints, you know, stock cars and made it actually pretty far. And part of that experience was trying to figure out how can I get companies to sponsor me? So I had to learn how to build my own website. I had to learn, you know It was literally me taking a web. com template and just breaking it, like over and over again. It was almost how people hack together, like MySpace pages. Where you're like trying to figure things out. That was literally me, with this web. com template. So, moving forward, I knew that there wasn't really like a lot of money per se in like action sports just because everyone expected free stuff all the time. So, and kind of went through, I hopped from like job to job and I went and, got my degree. So with the degree, it was starting with computer science and then went for marketing over at University of Washington. And I was just going from job to job and then Emerald Pacific, then turn into MPAC. Like, it was just kind of a side hustle. It was this thing that, you know, if I get clients, cool, whatever. But it wasn't until I figured out that, my wife was actually pregnant with our little one that I started, I almost had this like weird existential crisis where I was like thinking to myself, like, do I really want to be, working for a corporation forever? And really started having to ask those questions of myself of, you know, looking back at what my dad did, starting his own business to raise me along with my brother. And trying to figure out, there was a little bit of that spark still there. And a lot of what he did in starting his business was being able to actually spend more time with myself and my brother. So, and I pulled a little bit from that. I was like, you know what, there's still something with MPAC over here that, there's something valuable over here. And so I was trying to figure out, okay, well, the thing that makes the most sense is taking what I've learned from like other companies and what I've done with my other jobs and starting to apply it to MPAC. And see if I can actually do that, and go back to the community and figure out what can I do to provide services and help for all everyone that's in our community. And in turn, my goal with it would be to be able to spend a little bit or, well, a lot more time with our little girl Eloise and, trying to find a little bit of that time, reclaim that back, but also feel as if I'm, I almost have this like newfound freedom and being able to not only be with the family, but also being able to actually run a business and fall in the same footsteps of what my dad did and what our family did when I was growing up. Nice. Yeah. So it's kind of in your blood, that entrepreneur spirit. Kudos to your dad because he's got a tow truck demolition Derby, like supply and demand right there. Like he understood that's like where to go. Cause it's a constant stream of business. Good for him. Oh man. Okay. So now that we talked a little bit about that and, It's it's caffeinated chaos. You have to tell us a little chaos. Oh, yeah. What do you go shoot chaos? There's been all kinds of chaos right now The biggest chaos in our lives is honestly like the little one and just you know I'm taking in day by day what everything that she's going through and experiencing where to the point That you know a lot of the time we're up, every couple hours. So every like two to three hours So, what used to be, the fridge, we would just have a little bit of tea, so I'm like really big into the liquid death teas, like they have some pretty good stuff. And it used to be, a little corner, like sitting, in the fridge, where it's like, you know, here's, maybe like a case of four Red Bulls, here's, a couple liquid deaths. Now all of a sudden it's taken up like a whole entire like top row where we have all this stuff where it's like it used to be from one like Red Bull a day to all of a sudden like two or three and even getting to a point where we're like looking it's like you know that's probably not the healthiest thing to do like so it's you know down Red Bull you know for the sake of our daughter and wanting to be around you know forever for her and being able to do stuff with her. But yeah it's just trying to find you know different avenues of, getting the energy that we need to make sure that, she's getting fed, that she's, getting the love and the cuddles that she needs. And yeah, just taking a day at a time. And, especially in those times when she doesn't want to change. So she really hates being cold, so it's like one of those things where, sometimes just because, her stomach is still, getting used to, the milk and, being able to take that, sometimes she drinks a little bit too much than she should. So she'll throw up, and it's literally in, five, ten minutes after we get her in a new outfit, after, she threw up after drinking a little too much, and it's like, girl, we just changed you. Yeah. Haha. It's like get it together and then It's so funny my my two kids If they could, they'd just be in diapers. They would just be naked in diapers, you know? Especially as babies. That was like their favorite thing. It's just, you're like, okay. I mean, I guess maybe because I'm in California, so the weather's not like super cold. You know, we're cool like 70. But yeah, when they were little, it was just like, just diapers and I'm fine, mommy. Let me just roll over and look at myself in a mirror. That's like what babies love to do. But then when it came to sleeping, They are big time cuddlers and they just want to be like on you, like 100 percent of the time. I guess it's more comforting to them because they're so used to being like in our bellies. Well, not your belly, but are you me and your wife's belly that like hearing our heartbeat and the warmth is so great. So then. When the baby's out, that's where they want to be, which is why dads are so great at putting babies together. Because one thing I learned like way back when was like, guys tend to burn at a hotter rate than women. And so you guys are basically walking heaters to babies, you know, it's like your own personal radiator. I may just cling to you guys. Oh, I can definitely tell because a lot of the time when I'm holding her and she kind she's sleeping and doing her thing. All of a sudden it's like, okay, bedtime, if it's two in the morning and then try to put her down and she's like, ah, and it's like, I need some sleep too. Yeah, yeah. It's like, no, you gotta, you gotta keep holding me. You gotta keep, what are you doing dad? definitely when you're like in the little baby phase, that's when you like, need to make sure that you have a comfy chair that, you know, cause you're going to spend a lot of time in that chair with that baby either feeding or sleeping and then It's like you have to move like a snail because if you're like, oh, she's asleep And then you go too fast. No before you even hit the pillow. She'll be awake Yeah, it's like nope. I know what's going on here. Yeah. Yeah, that's the biggest thing I think My wife and I have been working on is just the patience and making sure that we're giving her the time that she needs to be able to, get settled down or be able to, drink her milk and all that good stuff. So a lot of the time it is patience and then exhibiting that just because, she doesn't know any better. My daughter's four months and she, oh my gosh, she's finally at six hours of sleeping a night. Sometimes if we get lucky, she'll go the whole night, but there's always that wake up at 2 AM and just needs like a sip and then right back to sleep. And I'm just like, no, I'm like laying there. I'm like, I woke up and now I can't sleep, and I'm staring at the ceiling and it's that moment I don't know if you have this moment or maybe your wife or but this moment where like you get the baby down again, and you're just staring like staring at the ceiling and you're like I don't want to get up. I can't turn anything on. I don't even want to look at my phone because I know, like, just the unlocked sound from the iPhone is gonna wake up this baby, you know? They may not even be in the same room, but they know. Like, they know that you're awake and, or well, I feel like they know when we're sleeping and then that's when they're like, time to wake up. All of a sudden they become a little gremlin and they're like, okay, we're gonna cause a little bit of fun in the middle of the night. Oh my gosh, gremlins, like, what's the rule? Don't feed them after midnight, don't get them wet. Yeah. That's like baby rolls. Oh yeah. I actually, I feel like that's more like toddler rolls. Don't, don't be a toddler too late, don't give them a late bath because I feel like that kind of energizes them again, oh yeah, we're learning pretty quick. I mean, obviously she's not a toddler yet, but yeah, it's funny kind of having that new lens where it's like you're going through this new experience. Oh, there she goes. I'm like hearing her in the background right now. But, yeah, it's like this situation where it's like you start re watching some movies and whatnot and TV shows and you start picking up on like your little idioms and things that at first kind of like, right over your head and you're like, like for a gremlins example where it's just like, I think I know what they're getting at. Yeah. Yeah. It's like that weird kind of like light moment. All of a sudden you're like, They knew and they were trying to warn us. And we didn't pay attention. We did not pay attention. We're just like, oh, they look like Furbies. Oh, they're cute. And no, they're talking about kids. Yeah. They're talking about toddlers. Here's your warning. Yeah, don't you wish that somebody would just straight up just Like in Flashing Neon Signs, just be like, warning, you're hitting that stage, she's coming, watch these follow movies again, and you'll finally understand, it was one of those were like, my wife and I were kind of joking about it. And we're like, the fact that we don't get like manuals. I come with a kid where it's just you're like winging it or Like thankfully we have like youtube videos and whatnot now And tick tocks how we can reference and see experiences from other people And i'm just thinking like there's so many tips and so many things out there Like how did people and just like humans? Survive without any of these tips and going through and just going through life and being like Oh, yeah, you know Do this thing, and now it's like we have YouTube videos. So you mentioned TikTok. It's so funny how we get tips from TikTok now. Can you think of a good tip that you learned from TikTok that you're like, oh my god, we use that all the time now? Oh, shoot. Right now the get her to actually go to sleep. I have this like little thing that I'm doing and I think you'll appreciate this. So like doing humming. So doing a little bit of humming, not really like singing, but like humming. And it's actually the Super Mario Bros theme that I'm doing in this really weird way. Like it's getting her to go to sleep at night. Like, I'm like, and then like, all of a sudden, you see the droopy eyes and you're like, Oh God, it's working. My housemate, he plays, Oh, what does he play? He plays, um, animal crossing, like the instrumentals for animal crossing. Like just, he'll just stream it on the TV in the living room. When it's like, time to wind down. And then one thing that I did when I was pregnant is I took. Like voice memo recordings of the ultrasounds where they have the heartbeat. So I'll just play that too, where it sounds like the sounds from inside the belly, from the ultrasound. When our first daughter, this is, if your wife ever has to go away, this worked for my, husband and my housemate when I had to go back to work and all that to put the baby down. What they did is whatever I wore. To bed the previous night. So like my like night shirt or whatever. They would put that down inside the crib underneath the blanket so that when they put her down to sleep, she smells me. And then so they were like, okay, so like every night instead of tossing my stuff in the laundry basket, I would put my shirt on the bed back on the bed and my husband would lay it down underneath the crib blanket and so that the bed would smell like me and then we would swap them out. every day. It worked pretty well for them when I had to go back to work and I was gone for half the day. And they needed to put her down and she just wouldn't, they, she just didn't want to go down without me. So yeah, that's my little tip to you. Nice. That's good to know. We'll take any kind of tips that we can right now. Oh, man. So wow. We talked about a lot. So business parenthood is there any like final thoughts you have for our listeners? Oh, shoot. I mean, not the moment that I can think of. The only thing I would probably, look at as far as, anyone that's out there and they're trying to figure out is it possible to try to navigate, entrepreneurship while raising the family. I would say it's definitely possible, but also, a lot of the times in us trying to, figure out how to, Sorry, I'm like, we're probably gonna have to redo that. She's starting to get hungry. I can hear it no worries. I mean we are Like this is the whole thing about being a business owner and a parent these times happen like I had an interview where their toddler came in the room and joined us, and then for our, that's a rap photo, their other daughter came in and was like, can I be in the photo? That's like, hey! Yeah, we totally get it. I can even barely hear her in the background. Cool. No, I feel like I have, like, the dad ears now, where it's like, I hear it, and it's just like, yeah. Sometimes it's like you get those ears all of a sudden where it's like, whenever you hear something, all of a sudden you're like, something just happened. It's funny too, as you get to, know your kid more and, I feel like sometimes when I'm out in public too, and I have my kid with me that I can like hear a kid crying. I'm like, that's not my kid, you know? And then, she could be down the next aisle with my husband. And I'm like, she's crying over there. And I just like, like she needs a bottle, just that like superhuman, you can tell the difference between your kid and someone else's kid. Just cause you're so used to hearing yours. There's all those like different cries. Yeah. Where it's like, you know, there's the hunger cry, there's the tired crime. There's also like the general one where it's like, you know, quite well. It's like, that doesn't mean anything. It's like, yeah, that's the, I don't know how to talk yet. Like, but I just want to make noises. My daughter, the four month old, Jasmine, she has finally learned to do the, like the raspberry sound with her lips, like the, right. And so she's doing it and. She thinks it's the funniest thing ever. And then so my toddler also thinks it's the funniest thing ever. And they get like super close to each other. Oh, my toddler gets really super close to the baby. And they're like doing it back and forth. And I was like, you guys are basically just spitting on each other. Stop it. Yeah. But they're both like laughing their head off. And it's really cute and funny to see. But I'm just like, okay, now I have to wipe you guys both down. It's both bath night now tonight, because you basically just spit raspberry on each other. I don't call myself a pro, but sometimes it does get a little too much. Like my daughter was like super sticky to me today. And my housemate was like, you want to go blow bubbles outside? And she instantly was like, forget you, mommy. I got bubbles now. And so they're outside, they're outside playing bubbles while we're recording. But I know that as soon as she comes back in, she's going to be like, my sleeves are wet, I got bubbles and now I have no more bubbles and she. She loves bubbles so much that she named a stuffy bubbles. So now it's really confusing. Cause she's like, I want bubbles and I'll give her the stuffy, but she doesn't want that. She wants actual bubbles. And then sometimes it's vice versa. And I'm like, we have to name the dog something else, you know? Yeah. It's like it can't be bubbles. They can't be the same thing. Thank you for taking time away from your newborn to chat with us and come on. How can people connect with you if they want to reach out? Yeah. And so we're kind of a little everywhere. And so, and I would say the best way of connecting, if it's wanting to talk with like me specifically, my website is be Lawrence. com or we're on, Facebook threads, Instagram, all different places underneath, all the places underneath the, the be Lawrence moniker, sometimes there's an underscore because there's like a random like Ben Lawrence out there that I've realized and I was like, Oh no, so, but be Lawrence is the best way of finding me as far as anything like impact design related. It's impact. co. So, it'll be co. And then, Emerald Pacific is usually the handle for a lot of the different, social media as well. Cool. And I'll grab those from you and I'll put them in the show notes for our listeners as well. In case someone's, like, driving and listening to this. So they don't have to worry about writing it down or remembering it. Because I don't know about you, but I listen to my podcast in the car. When I'm driving places. Sometimes it's nice just to listen back and make sure, because sometimes there's like some mixing that doesn't happen and you're like, oh shit, I missed something. Or for me, I'm driving and I'm listening and all of a sudden I'm like, oh, well, there goes my exit. Yeah. Totally forgot. And I guess we're going to Target. You know. That kind of girl math is like, I missed the excerpt must be my sign to go to target. Yeah. It's like, okay, detour, like the universe is guiding us. Thank you again for joining us and it's so great to finally be able to like talk face to face. You were like the one of the first people to apply to be on the show. And at the time, You were with your new one. And so I'm glad that we finally got connected. I'm glad that she's home and that you guys are thriving. I can't wait to connect more, especially in the future. I feel like a lot of, you guys, I need to have come back and do like a, how's it going? Where's, where have you been? You know, all when our kids like hit like one year, maybe we'll do like a one year podcasts come back or so. Kind of like a here and now thing. Yeah. Yeah, where are they now? 1998 like, you know, did they do that where it was like class like class of 95. Where are they now Oh man, I mean there's i've seen a couple people doing stuff like that actually I don't remember if it was like tick tocker Facebook or Instagram, like if it was in Reels or something, but like people doing something of like, here's when she was born or he was born versus like where he is now. And I think like it's really big on Reddit too, that there's a lot of stories of, of the here and now, and it's usually like a year or two apart. Yeah, I wouldn't doubt it. I feel like a lot of people want to know the tea. And so like stories like that, especially if it's gossipy stories, people just want to know, and they, you know, the more that they know about the story, the more they get invested too. Awesome. Well, thank you for joining us again. I know I keep saying it, but thank you. Thank you. Because I know that you are extremely busy, and I will talk to you soon and I will talk to everyone else next week on our next episode. Absolutely. Sounds good. And yeah, thank you for having me come on and glad I, I can chat with you and navigate the waters of business and family and all that good stuff. And yeah, I just appreciate that you're taking the time to, interview me as well. And that's a wrap on the episode. Big thanks to Britain for coming on and sharing his story all about the juggling act of entrepreneurship and parenthood. Remember, whether you're building your dream business, raising little humans, or doing both. Progress beats perfection every time. If this episode gave you a boost, hit that subscribe button, leave a review, and share it with your favorite chaos loving friend. We would love to hear from you. Until next week, remember, chaos isn't part of the journey. 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