47. Grow Your Audience As A Podcast Guest with Guest Candace Dudley

What happens when a former teacher turns the page to write a new chapter as a stay-at-home mom, podcast host, and multi-passionate entrepreneur? You get Candace Dudley - someone who’s rewriting the rules of success with courage, intention, and a whole lot of heart.

In this episode, Whitney sits down with Candace, the voice behind the Better Brave Podcast (with over 170 episodes!), to talk about living boldly, chasing fulfillment unapologetically, and how podcast guesting can be a game-changer for visibility and impact. Whether you're a podcaster, a business owner, or someone standing on the edge of “what’s next,” Candace drops inspiring and practical wisdom you don’t want to miss.

Expect a candid convo filled with real mom chaos, claw clip confessions, and golden advice on:

• Why everyone has a story worth sharing
• How to overcome imposter syndrome and show up as the expert you are
• The power of podcast guesting (and how to do it without burning out)
• Why Threads is secretly the best networking app for podcasters
• Balancing life, business, and motherhood in the most human way possible

If you’ve ever doubted your voice, this episode will make you believe—you can do the thing.

Links:

• Instagram
• Threads
• LinkedIn
• Podcast
• Free Podcast Guesting Starter Guide 

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Welcome to Caffeinated Chaos, where business deals happen between diaper changes and friendships are fueled by caffeine. I'm Whitney GaN, your host, and I'm here to talk all things business parenthood, and of course keeping up with the BFFs, whether you're juggling the boardroom, the playroom, or just here for some coffee fuel chaos. We've got you covered. Get ready for real talk, laughs and a whole lot of heart as we dive into the beautiful mess that is entrepreneurship, parenthood, and everything in between. So let's embrace the chaos together. Caffeinated, of course. today's guest is no stranger to big pivots and bold moves. Meet Candace Dudley, a former teacher, turned multi-passionate entrepreneur, and stay at home mom who's rewriting the rules of success on her own terms. Of course. She's the voice behind the Better Brave Podcast. With over 170 episodes where she empowers listeners to live courageously and chase fulfillment unapologetically. Candace now helps clients amplify their voice through intentional podcast management, strategic guesting, and sustainable growth strategies. All rooted in her passion for breaking barriers and helping others build bold, brave lives. Whether you're a podcast newbie or ready to scale, Candace brings wisdom, warmth, and a kind of energy that makes you believe that you can do the thing. So let's welcome Candace to the podcast everyone. Welcome to the podcast, Candace. How are you this morning? Hey, I'm good. Thanks for having me. Is it morning where you are? I forgot to, it's, yeah, we're 11 o'clock, so I think we're a little bit ahead of you, but morning-ish. Yeah, it's 9:00 AM here, which is like perfect.'cause all the kids are still sleeping. Oh, okay. My husband's still sleeping too, so everyone is just. The house is quiet, Zen. That's beautiful. Very zen. Okay, so before we get too far in,'cause I know you have a chaotic story and lots to tell people. Why don't you tell our listeners who you are and what you do? Sure. So I'm Candace and I am a former teacher turned entrepreneur. Podcast host of almost four years, and I currently mentor and, help people with their podcasts with a variety of services like. Editing and offloading things, but my favorite topic is to help people guest on podcasts and really be effective with their speaking points and their offers, and kind of have all of that in alignment so that they can use podcast guesting to really grow their visibility and do it in a way that sometimes feels like a time that's not a time suck. Like sometimes social media and other things like that feel like when you're trying to be seen and get your message out there. Yeah. Oh my gosh. And you and I had. So this is our first time having a one-on-one. Mm-hmm. But listeners, I actually had Candace in my podcasters networking crawl, which was really fun. And it, I was actually really surprised for the first month we actually got like nine podcasters to come on and Yeah. That's crazy. I know and I was just like, it was just something I literally threw out into the threads world and only threads, and that's what happened. So that's threads has been my thing this year too. I remember my kids were home on Christmas vacation in December, so I really wasn't working much, you know, it's just chaotic. Three kids at home and I thought, I'm itching to get back going and so I thought I'm gonna give this threads thing a try. And I kind of dismissed it early on. I cannot tell you if you're not, if you're not on there, it's just like so locked in with the algorithm. I think every connection with other podcasters this year has been from that, for me, and it's just been wild. so I really, really am enjoying threads and I love it for like, connecting with people, but then there's like those times where I'm like, it's like midnight and I'm just like. Hey, who else is just looking at threads? Scrolling. Yes. And literally one person was like me, I'm doing that. And I was like, what are you doing? What else are you doing? And they're like, I'm watching trash tv. And I was like, oh, what are you watching? And we had this like one-on-one conversation just through posting like at like 12, one o'clock in the morning. And I was just like, okay, well I'm gonna try to go to sleep. And then the person was like, I've been trying to go to sleep for the past two hours. Yeah. It's so interesting. I think my best connecting posts have just been those random ones where you're like, oh, is anyone watching Taylor Swift play football right now? I'm totally joking. Obviously. Yeah. But. It's just been so funny and it's just interesting how quick the algorithm like responds to what you ask it for. I just don't feel like that's the same anywhere else. So I find it really fun and easygoing and it's been pretty cool. Yeah, I mean, it's such a bummer that like. The algorithms for the other platforms are just not as quick as threads is. Yeah. But I think that it's like, it's kind of like a breath of fresh air too, where I'm just like, oh, thank you algorithm. You're doing something great. You know? Yes, for sure. My favorite algorithm so far is threads for sure. Yeah, definitely. Awesome. Okay, so do you wanna start with your chaotic moment? Sure. I feel like I have one that just happened this morning. I mean, when you have three kids that I literally had them all like within three years, the first two are like less than 11 months apart. So it was, it's been chaotic since they all have been growing up. But now the baby is six. So she woke up this morning, with a fever and I had plans to, sometimes I go in and substitute, teach for my old colleagues if they are in a bind. And so I had plans to go in for like an hour this morning to help someone out, and so it just became this like, oh shoot, I have to cancel. Someone needs to stay home with her. She's sick. Meanwhile, my husband had been sitting with her in the rocking chair for like an hour, and I take one look at her and I'm like, did you didn't notice that she. Doesn't look very good. And I touch her and I'm like, oh my gosh, we have a fever. She'd been crying. He is like, no, I think, you know, I think she's fine. She can go to school. He's a teacher too. He's a kindergarten teacher. And I'm like, no, I don't. I don't think so. So then it was just, you know, a mom scramble of like, all right, we gotta fix this and we gotta make this work. So, oh yeah, it's, you throw kids in the mix and I just. People say they aren't chaotic. I don't know if I can trust them. Yeah. Stop lying to yourself. We know that there are chaotic moments, everybody. Yes. Oh man. Also, we are such moms right now we're like both in like crew neck sweaters, like just plain old sweaters. Claw clip in the hair. See, the problem with me in the claw clips is like. It's dangerous to be like wearing them in the car when you're driving in case you get in an accident. So I always wear them out to the car and then I'll take'em off and I'll put them like in the middle compartment. And then all my claw clips are now in the middle compartment of my car. And I'm like, oh my gosh. I wake up in the morning, I was like, I don't have a single clip in the house. And I'm like, do I wanna walk to the parking lot and get the my clip? And I was like. Nah, I'm just gonna leave the hair tuck scrunchie, for sure. Yeah, I've been loving this like, it's like a silk scrunchie. It's like my favorite one to use. We got the mom vibes going on right now. We're nailing it. Nailing it. All right. So, okay. What should we dig into first? What do you think? Should we talk about guesting on podcast?'cause that's kind of like your bread and butter right now. Like I've been seeing it all over your Instagram. Yeah, for sure. Lay out. We can do that. It, yeah, yeah. Let's do it. What do you wanna know about it? Where should we start? Okay. Okay. So how about, let's start with this. If somebody's out there and they're like, I wanna be a guest on a podcast, but I'm scared. Maybe it's imposter, or maybe it's just they don't know if they have a story to tell. What would you suggest to that person? First of all, every single one of us has a story to tell. I thought the exact same thing. Four years ago when I was starting my podcast, I kept feeling a nudge to start a podcast. And maybe they don't have that big of a nudge, but they know they, they wanna start. Sharing their story, they wanna get out there. But we all have a story to tell and there are people, I mean, how many billions of people are on this world? Mm-hmm. There's plenty of people that are going to connect with you that are like, waiting for you and your take on how you do things and your experience. So just know that there's someone out there, that you could help. And I think that when you put that in to the forefront of like a very service minded. A heart that you could potentially help someone with your words and with your experience and what you're gonna share, that it makes it a lot easier to kind of crush that doubt and get out there. The other thing I always tell people is that it's very easy to get caught up in thinking, well, who am I to do this? Somebody knows more than me, and I think. I mean, the fact is, yes, somebody knows more than me. Someone knows more than you. Someone knows more than all of us. That's not the point. That's true. The point, yeah. Right. But the point is, you know enough to get someone to where you are today, and that's what your people want from you, is your help to, get to where you are. And so that makes you the expert. And so we, we have to, I think women especially can really downgrade. I know I'm guilty of it. Our experience and our knowledge and our actual expertise that we bring to the table just because of either our own life experiences or the skills that we've developed throughout starting a podcast, starting a business, like you have knowledge and you have things to share. So for sure. Plenty of dealt in things that can get in your way, but highly recommend it, especially for people too, that maybe you wanna start a podcast, but you're like, if you wanna just dabble in it, you could try to guest first. And that would give you a really good taste of like, did you like it? Was it energizing? Was it fun? So there's a lot of reasons why someone might start with podcasts Guesting too. Yeah. I, that's so many like good points too. At the time of this recording next Thursday, I'm releasing an imposter syndrome episode. Like a, just like a little quickie. And I feel like a lot of people suffer from that. And like, you know, like you were saying, is like, everyone has a story to tell, and it's about finding the right podcast too, you know? Mm-hmm. Because I feel like that's also, if you, I used to call it job phishing, you know, resume phishing when you like, cast your resume everywhere and see what, what picks up. Mm-hmm. But in the sense too of being a podcast guest, you wanna make sure that the podcast that you are interested in being on their audience aligns with what you do and who you are. Yes. Otherwise it's a waste of both of your times because mm-hmm. The, it's just not gonna hit. But when you do find that alignment, even just little pieces like. Us being moms, those different things and being podcasters like that alignment though, when you guest with people like that, or even as a host, have people like that on your show. It is. It is just like magical. I get so amped up after those, it's so fun and energetic because it's just in alignment and so some things you can do, to make sure that. Your message and the podcast message have some alignment is to get really clear on some specific speaking topics that you would have. And so I like to kind of backwards plan and think, what kind of offers do you have? What kind of free resources do you have, you know, that you wanna Yeah. Utilize. And then. Of those.'cause sometimes people have lots, like I just worked with a client and she had five free resources and they were all amazing, but they're also all very different. And so I asked her, which one of those leads you into your dream client? Like mm-hmm. The paying client that you're booking, which offer is that? And so then it was very clear that it was like one of the two. So then you can plan, okay, what are three? Maybe titles or specific topics that you could speak on. And when you have that, it just becomes a lot easier than to find podcasts that align with those topics. I also say just go post it on threads, but when you see those posts on threads or social media where it's like, I have a goal to guest on 20 podcasts this year, who needs a guest? Those kind of, I just, those just feel like very. Self-centered versus like, how can I serve you and your audience? So if you're able to have a post that says, Hey, I love to speak about podcast guesting and you know, this, that, and the other, maybe your website or brand expert and you also know CSEO and you can pair that, like, that makes you different. Think about what makes you different, you know? Um, and so for me, like the different pieces I have is. I not only guest on podcasts, I have my own show, so I get pitches all the time. And so I know like what some of the don'ts are in that regard. So that makes my experience a little different than maybe somebody else who only guests on podcasts and they can speak to that, but they can't speak to the other side of the coin. So if you can find like your little bit that makes you different. And wrap that into like what you would speak about and then just put that out there because that's how, honestly, I've, in the last six weeks, I think I've guessed on 14 podcasts and that has not been the norm for me. I, in the last two years, I haven't guessed on 14 total podcasts, but because I've been saying. Hey, I'm, you know, X, Y, and Z are the topics I wanna talk about. Or then just searching social media or threads of, you can type in podcasters, podcast threads, whatever in the search bar. Yeah. And then you're gonna get conversations popping up. And if somebody, like a host had posted, Hey, they're looking for these five topics, and you are like, well, I fit topic two, you can comment. And it becomes this very organic thing that feels good on both sides. You don't feel like. Icky pitch. Like salesy, weird about it. Yeah. And yeah, you just put it out there. So that's a really easy place to start and just see what happens. You'll likely get a few bites here and there. And if you don't, just share it again. Share it again. Just keep putting that out there.'cause you don't know if your friend. That you has another friend that you don't know of has a podcast and she didn't know that you wanted to speak on that, and so now she's gonna connect you. You just don't know all the ripples of just yeah, putting that out there. But yeah, definitely get specific and say what are your dream topics to talk about so that people can be like, ah, yes, that's me, and I can see themselves in that. Coming from the host perspective too is, when I first started, like my social media for the podcast and threads for the podcast, I was just like, this is what my podcast is about. And then I'm like, I'm looking for guests. This is what I'm looking for. Yes. And then I had bullet points and people, so many people were on that one particular thread and was like, I'm a mom of three, like I do this and this and that, and I'm like. You know, I'm like, cool, let's connect on ig. Send me your email. Yes. I'll send you the application. And so yeah, you're totally right. Whether you are someone who's looking to guest and throwing it out in the universe, or you scroll those, you know, podcast threats, podcasters. Yeah. And find those posts that actually were a host are saying what they're looking for. Yes. I also. Think it's really important that you go and listen to Oh, some of the episodes, yes. I feel like some people, they're just like, I wanna be a guest. And I'm like, what's your favorite episode? And they're like, I haven't listened yet. You like, yeah, you never know if you're gonna fit. Right. Oh, that's like, I'm glad you brought that up, because that is like the first thing on my checklist is have you listened to their show? Like, do not send your pitch. Now granted, you can comment on a threads thing, but then like, please follow up and do the homework because Yeah, if. If you get on their show and you haven't listened to them or followed them or know anything about what they're about, mm-hmm. That's gonna, the interview is just not gonna go as good as it could have gone, and it might fall flat. And instead of, if you spent 10 to 20 minutes, even just quick scanning bits and listening to pieces, you're gonna get a good grasp. It's pretty easy to get a good vibe, check on a podcast and like what their message is and what they love and so, yeah. 10 outta 10 recommend that, especially if you're gonna go a step further and find podcasts to email them pitches, that's a different ball game. Yeah. But if that's really easy to spot a copy paste, or you just grabbed it, one title of one episode and you threw it in there, but the rest of your email is like, you missed it, you don't actually know what I, talk about. So doing your homework, and I don't mean to spend hours and hours doing it, but even those little bits, to just listen to parts of episodes or a full episode, whatever. Yeah, that is huge. That goes a long way. It's just gonna make things feel much more genuine and allow things to be so much better than if you didn't do that. Oh yeah, 100%. I feel like, so listeners, I have everyone who comes on my podcast fill out an application, and me and Candace today, Google Drive was not working with me, so I actually don't have, I usually have the application off to the side. So my chaotic moment today is that Google Drive is just not being nice today. And so Candace and I are like. Completely like spitballing this off the bat. But normally I will have that application off to the side and so if people get stuck, we'll refer back to the application. And I find that people who have said that they've seen the podcast or listened to the podcast and or have like. Had conversations with me on social media, whether it's voice memos. I love when someone sends me a voice memo memo wanting to be a guest because like, yes, it's amazing, right? Mm-hmm. We'll have to get into that in a second. But, those, I've seen, answered those application questions fully and like actually put thought into it. I have to look at their application less during the actual interview is because we flow so much because we, I know more about them from reading their application. We've already had conversations, whether it's on social media or even during the pre-recording, like couple minutes. Whereas in people who are like, oh no, I haven't, but I will listen to it. And I'm like, okay, I like what? I like all your other answers on and so like, get them scheduled and they're just like A, B, c, pauses. And then I ask them a question, I'm like, a B, and I'm like, this is not, like, it's not that kind of interview. Like you're not applying for a job. Right. You know, it's like a conversation. I love podcasts that are conversational and like, feel like I'm just listening to'em and I could be in the room with them just sipping some coffee, having a drink, and just sitting there relaxing and. Chitchatting. That's the best to meet. Yeah. Yeah. I, yeah. I always love it when I'm just like, this episode is gonna make you feel like you're just hanging out with your besties. Yes. If you a mom friend tonight, like, we got you, you like, you need a business bestie, we got you tonight. And then it's also those conversations where you wanna listen to business, but you're also a mom and you totally understand where. We'll talk about business and then like two seconds later we're like, Ooh, we just heard the toddler in the other room. And then we start talking about something. Our toddler dude, that was crazy. Like my toddler's a dinosaur one day and a princess the next day, you know? Yes. Yesterday I I was going through my Instagram messages and somebody who was like, I've never been on podcasts before, but I wanna like, break the ice and get into it. And I had seen their posts and I was the one who actually interacted with this person. I was just scrolling through podcast threads and I go, well. if you're unsure, if you wanna be a podcast guest, or unsure if this is a a if my podcast is a good fit for you, why don't we schedule like, just like a chitchat call, you know, like, yeah, like besties, and so then connect with on Instagram so we can talk more like private, you know,'cause threads doesn't have dms. And so the first thing I did was they were like, Hey, how are you doing? And then I just like hopped on a voice memo and I was just like, I'm doing great. Like, how are you? This and that. And they were so cool. They hopped on a voice memo back and was like, yes, I'm doing great. Like, you know, talking about mom life and kids and, then also just having those, like back to back conversations in voice memos where I'm like, I'm sorry, it's so loud. I'm at the mall. You know? And so I was like, I feel like we would get a lot, like, I feel like this would be a really good thing. Yeah. And, and it made them more comfortable. But at the same time, I'm just like. I'm like the most chill podcast like, like whatever you want to talk about, I'm cool as long as it falls in my three bucket content buckets. Yep. So yeah, so finding the right fit I think is really, really important for people who want to guess, because also if you're going to be, you know, promoting what you do, you wanna be talking to people who actually want that thing. Podcasters have many hats before usually they become podcasters. Yes. For sure. So like, yeah, like you got what, three plus you know, your business and now podcast of four years. I'm very much behind you. I've only been doing this since December, so that, you know. That's awesome though. Still, I think some people can jump in and have, maybe you had more knowledge to begin with. When I first started I was like, Google University, you know, I was just. TE self-teaching and figuring one thing out at a time. I mean, my first episodes are still there. They're unedited. I didn't know how to edit, but I was like, I can't just keep using all these things as excuses. And I just knew I needed to take some inspired, messy action at the time, and I, I'm glad I did because. Who knew it would lead me to, like, sometimes you just don't know where you're gonna be led, but you just have this calling or this nudge I like to say, where you're like, I need to do this. I don't a hundred percent know why, but I kind of just need to trust this. And so I always go with that like intuition, that gut feeling, because it's just panda out so many times. And now you can look back and you can reflect and think, oh, I see where all these dots are connected. I see what this all was setting me up for. But at the time it's almost a little scary and like. What we're gonna do this now. I don't, I didn't see this coming, but yeah, just trusting that too is always a good thing. So you're giving us so many tips right now that it's like amazing and I, I hope people, you know, go in and podcast. And one thing I also wanted to kind of say is that you don't have to be just a service provider to be a podcast ghost. If you are a product based business too, there are product-based business, audiences out there too. So. For sure you're, if you're out there just like, you know, making candles or making bags and accessories and someone's like, why would someone wanna talk candles with me? You know, maybe not necessarily just candles, but you do run a business and that's still something that exactly people out there can talk about. Exactly. And when I have guests on my show, a lot of times I highlight, I like to just highlight the entrepreneurial journey. So people are n never one is the same as the other, is what I love about that. So how did you get to making candles? What was that like? How did it become a business like? That whole process is very inspiring. And we forget because now at this point in our lives, like whatever we're doing is usually feels kind of easy to us or you know, something so you, yeah. You know something. So you think other people know, so know it too. Yeah. And that's not the case, you know? So someone could listen to your story about how you made your first candle, how you turned it into a business, how you. Have customers find you pay, buy your product and deliver it. And that could be a wealth of information that someone could literally take and run with and start their own thing. And if you didn't share that, then they would still be lost in not even maybe even realizing that they could do that with something that they love. So that's why I love the stories and like, how did you come to get to this point? And so everybody has. Just nuggets that people can take away within there, but we just don't think that we do. Yeah. Yeah. I love this if there is something that you love and that you want to pursue, it's never too late to pursue your passions is another good kind of like story journey that I like when people come on the podcast and talk about as well. I agree. I agree. There's so many stories and success stories. Just, you can Google even like celebrities that they didn't start till they were 50 or they didn't start till, you know, there's just no, we think that it has to be a certain way or like we were brought up, I'm a millennial, so I was brought up in the, you go to, high school, then you have to go to college, and then you get a job and like you just stay in that nine to five forever and then you retire. And so the truth is like. That's just a story. And so we get to decide if it's our going to be our story or not. And I love that podcasters like us, we can share like, that's great if you love that, if that lights you up. But it's also okay if it doesn't and you get to decide differently and you can change your mind and you can pivot no matter what age you're at. Yeah. And it, and it's amazing because you know, there are the podcasts out there that talk about. Doing a nine to five, and then there are podcasts that are doing your own business. And so there's literally like podcasts for almost everybody now. Everything, yes. Everything. Everything. For sure. You can find it if you are thinking about or dreaming it up, it's out there. But also that same breath, just'cause it's out there doesn't mean you can't do it or you can't start a show Yeah. Yourself. Because I'm just a big believer that like even if you and I both. Were to coach people on podcasting. Mm-hmm. We both are going to be different. Yeah. And there's gonna be people that relate to you and then that relate to me better. And that's amazing. And I think there's just room for all of us and there's just this abundance that we get tricked into thinking that it's not there. It's there and there's clients for all of us, and you can do something that's already recreated. It already been created. I'm not saying to copy it, I'm just saying like, you're gonna have your own take on it. Yeah. So it's, don't let your that stop you if you're like, everybody's started a podcast about this topic already. Yes. There's motherhood podcast out there. Yes. But not your experience with motherhood, right? So when talking about, like you say, for example, you and I were doing the same thing, you would be a great person to network with because you might know other podcasters who talk about this topic and so maybe you're like, Hey Whitney, that was a great episode. You should also talk to my friends. Megan Ryan, right? You know? Yes. And so when you're guesting on podcasts, it's great to keep a relationship with the host too, because you never know when they're just gonna be like, Hey, my friend Candace is opening up guest spots. They're talking about this, which is what you talk about. Maybe that's a good fit. You know? A hundred percent, yes. Especially the hosts that you vibe with. Like, I feel like we have a good vibe going on here today. Like that is the beauty of it. That's the connection for me. It's like I am an introvert and I don't wanna go to an in-person networking event with like business cards and people in suits. Like that feels ugh to me. I'd rather podcast. I'd rather do things like this. And so this is like my networking, keep those connections, like you said, going because you really don't know, are we gonna collaborate in the future? Are we going to, you know, refer people like you said to each other? And then that referral piece too. That's also why I think it's really important that like, obviously we've talked about a lot of things under the sun, but really there's still that underlying focus of like what I do and that's with podcast guesting. And so if you can have that and. Within your guessing experience, that host is gonna remember that that's the thing that you do. Mm-hmm. And so when someone comes to them and they have that question and it's not something they solve, they're gonna be like, oh, but I know someone, yeah, you should talk to them. But if we get on a show, and I've been guilty of this in years past too, where it's like, oh, I do this and that and this, and I do, um, you know, journal publishing on Amazon, KDP, and I help people write emails and I podcast, you're not gonna be the one that comes to mind. When that referral situation is there. Right? So if you can hone in on something, it's not to say you couldn't have more services after you've already, you know, brought in those clients, but it's best to kind of have that one piece or a narrowed in piece so that you do come to mind when that topic is needed. Yeah, it's all about, I think you said it, it's all about focusing on who you're. Dream ideal client is. Yes. And what that one offer is.'cause once you get them into your universe, then they can explore your other options, you know? Yes. And your other services. So I think that's really, really important too. Oh my gosh, I love this. Okay. Oh my, I keep looking at, I'm like looking at the clock and I'm like, oh my God, we've been talking for so long, but like. I love, like, I don't wanna stop talking. It's the best. Yeah. When that flies by and you get done with an interview and you're like, that was the fastest, best hour of my day. It's so good. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Don't wanna run outta time for this, but I do, want you to tell our listeners about your program that you have right now with, podcast Guessing Yes. I call it pod, my podcast Guesting Accelerator. So it's really, there you go. A partially done for you service, but we work one-on-one, so it's not a group setting. It's you and me. We get on a call, we really get to know, I really get to know you, and then I do the legwork for you, and I find 10 to 15 podcasts or. Whatever we agree upon or whatever your needs are. But we'll start there with 10 to 15 of aligned shows that have alignment with you, your messaging, who you are, the pieces about you. And then I go find those for you and then basically offload all of the. Social media handles contact information, their show linked in a very nice, neat graphic organizer. I'm a type A former teacher, so you know, it's going to be, just needs to be neat. So I love a good Google Sheets, tracker. But, and then part of that call too is we go through your offers and we do your media sheet for you or together, and we talk about what. What is the alignment and the most important parts of your messaging that we wanna make sure that we highlight, and so that you can really just feel really confident when you, get on the show of what you're gonna speak on and feel really great about that. So it's an awesome package. I've been told many times that I'm undercharging, so get in the door before I decide like, oh, maybe I am, and I'll raise the price. But right now, yeah. So anyways, if that's a goal for you, it kind of just cuts out the guesswork, kind of cuts out, all the time that it can take you to go looking for that type of quantity of shows and to make sure that, it is in alignment too. So. I love that. Oh my gosh. Like, yeah, if somebody does all the research, I mean, I know there are people out there who are just like. Oh, it feels so daunting to like go and look it up and find them and, there are some people who are like, I just don't have the time. Like, where am I gonna go Right. And find the time. I'm like, well, here's Candace. You know? Yes. You know, there's someone always that. Loves to do what you don't. So you need, yeah, you can find them, hire them so you can do the things you like. They can stay doing the things they like. It's just like an amazing partnership. We can all do the parts of our job that we like the most. Yeah, and I think also too, with working with you,'cause you are a podcast host, so you know, the world of podcasting Okay, so one more thing,'cause I forgot, I think we talked about this, is if you're going to be a podcast host, just also be aware that people batch their content. And so you don't know when you are going to be, like published on the podcast. So keeping your offer. Alive and open. Yes. Like, me and you, we are like, Hey, you're looking at may, and so I was like, I just wanna make sure that it's still gonna be there, because if we talk about something and then you close that offer or that deal, you know? Right. Yes. You have to give some thought to that. Most guest interviews, it's at least weeks, if not sometimes months. Like right now, my, I'm not even taking on guests'cause I'm booked out through June. Yeah. So I'll have to have you on, but not yet. I'll be in contact. But yeah, so just knowing that ahead of time. Yeah. Like you said, you can get, if you have like an ongoing offer that's like your, maybe your signature thing, that's like always ongoing, that's always a good thing to go with. Just in case the host does change things or things like that too.'cause you're kind of. At their. I don't know what to call it. At their mercy. Not really, Mercy's not the right word, but it's at their schedule. It's Yeah, at their schedule. Yeah. On you're on their time. And that's also because they're doing the work. Like, I'm gonna get off of this, and you have to go edit now and you have to get the show ready and you have to do the show notes and schedule it and public. There's a lot that goes into a guest episode, which I know from firsthand. And so I really appreciate when people let me on the show because I know how much work it is. It's much more work than a solo episode, so. Mm-hmm. Keep that in mind too when you are guesting that you make sure you're ready to share the episode with. Everyone in your network, because I have had that happen where people have been on and then they don't share it. So if you are not ready to share your own personal episode, that's a sign you're not ready to guess. Mm-hmm. So maybe it's, you need to do some inner work, or you need to practice your speaking in a, in the mirror or to yourself. Yeah. Whatever it might be. Or with a coach. Those things might need to happen or be put in place before you guess if that's not something you're willing to do, because at the very least, you should be sharing the episode with everyone on your socials and maybe an email list, even if you have one, because it's a lot of work to produce episodes and have guests on a show. Yeah. Okay, my, you, when you were saying that, you made me remember something that my life skills teacher used to teach us. So this was taught to us as like a job to prepare for our job interview. But she used to say, write, look online and find questions that relate to the job that you're looking for, right? So whether that's an HR or, you know, whatever job. So like. In the podcast, you would look up stuff within your podcast and then you write all those questions down and she would say, then go on your phone and like on a voice memo, say the question. Yeah. Wait, three to five minutes, say the next question and repeat through all the questions, and then go back and play it. And then when, during those pauses is when you practice what you're going to say. Yeah. Nice. So then you have someone asking the questions, and then if you start hearing yourself, read the next question you talked for over more than five minutes. So then, it helps you with your pacing and learning to say what you need to say in a like. Concise way. Yes. One if you're looking for a job that's a great way to practice for an actual job interview. But two, I think it's a good way to kind of train yourself to talk about your topic in a very concise, efficient way so that you can talk more and answer more questions if that's the style of podcasts. That you're going into For sure. That's a really good point. And something I tell people, especially in the very first question, almost all the time, they're gonna say like. Ask you who are you or who do you serve? Guilty or like Yeah, tell, I mean, but I ask the same thing. You have to, I mean, I don't know how there's a way around that.'cause you have to like, let people know who is this person coming on the show. Yeah. So I don't think there's anything wrong with that. But as a guest answering that question, I mean, I've had guests on where all of a sudden we're seven minutes in and they're still going. Mm-hmm. And so we haven't gotten a chance to get to their expertise and, other areas that I wanted to highlight because. My show is like a quick hitter. It's, they're like 25 minutes. So now you view is like a quarter of the show just on introducing yourself. So it's really, a that's a great tip, especially once you've landed the guest spot to practice at least that first question.'cause some, some way, shape or form you're gonna be asked to introduce yourself. So. You, they don't need the whole dialogue. You just figure out what parts, you wanna highlight and then, how you can serve someone is also needs to be tied in there. But yeah, you're totally right on that. Right on on point. I should make an Instagram reel. Yes. That would be a great tip. So listeners, you need to follow Candace also on social medias because all these little nuggets are on. Platforms as well. Yeah, I'm not gate keeping any information. I always hated that when you would get on like a free workshop, mastermind call, or like even when you listen to podcasts and then you get done and you're like, wait, you didn't tell me how to do it. That would drive me nuts. So I am not one to gate keep any information, even if you. Get off of this call and you have a question and you wanna DM me a one-off question, I will answer you and I am not gonna be like, and here's an invoice for that. No, no, no. I'm gonna tell you the answer because I just think, we just all need to be in community, especially us women, and we're made to do things together and uplift each other and when we can help someone, you know, that's just good energy, good vibes, I'm all about it. Um, but yeah, I don't gate keep the information. I always hate when that happens to me. I never try to be like secretive or hold something back. Oh yeah, 100%. That is literally the whole reason why I like it every one of my episodes to have an actionable first step, which you gave us earlier, you know, and sometimes the tips I have are because I did it wrong myself, first sense. And then you get done and you're like, oh, we should not do that. So you're gonna mess up, you're gonna make mistakes. Your GE first guesting role, your first podcast episode, it's not gonna be perfect. It's probably not even gonna be great. But the, your people wanna be along for that ride. They want to know you're human. It's all good. You're gonna get better. Don't be hard on yourself, but you know, listen to it back and. Pick one or two things that you're gonna do better the next time and just keep learning from it. And then eventually, you gotta let yourself be a beginner before you can be, better and better. So, yep. You got, what's that saying? Like you gotta crawl before you walk. You gotta walk before you run. Yes, exactly. So cool. Okay, so we kind of touched on it and I don't wanna forget, but how can people get in contact with you? Give us all your social media threads and also. This is all gonna be in the show notes linked. If you can't get to a pen and paper, look in the show notes. Fantastic. Sure. Uh, all my social media is my name, Candace Studly, so at Candace Studly on Instagram Threads. I am over on LinkedIn a bit, but my website is also candace duly.com, so everything's linked on the website and in Instagram and the bio and whatnot. Okay. Do you have any final thoughts for our listeners?'cause I'm, I'm, it's so sad that like our time is ending. I know we talked about so much, but I just think, I just wanna keep reinforcing that your story matters. Mm-hmm. Podcasting podcast guesting is just a really great way to give us all more of a voice. And yeah, in the result of that, it allows more of us to feel seen, so. That's why I started mine in the beginning was I wanted other moms to feel seen. I didn't feel like I was home on maternity leave and didn't feel like anyone was talking about what I was going through. And so when we all share our stories, it lets the rest of us feel seen. And that is a feeling that I want for everyone. Yeah. Because once you felt that deeply, like she gets me, there's nothing better. There's nothing better. And so it can be life changing and it can change the trajectory of your life. And so get out there, kick that self-doubt and mean girl in your head to the curb because you have a story worth sharing. And representation right now is so important. And yeah, I just, I like you said, I love the fact that. These podcasts and all these different stories being told just will allow more people to just be like, oh, I get it. She sees me. And it just takes one person, to see who you are and to relate to you to give you that boost mm-hmm. To go out there and, and grab what you want, absolutely. Awesome. That is such a good note to end on. This is why you teach guesting. Yeah. So hopefully It sounded all really great because it's, why would you hire someone that can't go and speak, but had, I've had a lot of reps of practice, so let's not forget that either, because I don't want anyone to think, oh, I should sound like. Susie on day one? Nope. She's put in, over hundreds of reps, so Yeah, for sure. Which you understand years, four years of podcast hosting. Yes. So, yeah, it makes a difference. I can't wait to reach my one year and it, it just seems so far, but also. Those last four months have gone by so fast. Yeah. You have to celebrate when you get there. You gotta celebrate in some way because I know I didn't do that enough and I look back and I wish I did because it's just gonna give you the energy to keep going. And it's a big deal. It is a big deal. Like someone literally listens to you every week or whatever as part of their day and that is crazy. Is it? Oh, it's so crazy. My husband, when we reached 30 days and we got 250 downloads, he like got me a cake with candles, say two 50. Oh, so cute. Yes. That's awesome. It was really nice.'cause then I'm just like, I wasn't like really even telling like my friends about this. I was just like, I just wanna see if it's gonna like hit, you know? And the fact that we got so many in the first 30 days of people I didn't know, you know? Yeah. That I was just like. Oh, okay. Cool. That I felt seen where I was like, oh my God. People listen to me, and I'm like, why are people listening to me? Right. It's like a rollercoaster of emotions and thoughts. You're so excited. And then you're like, wait, what? Pe Oh no. People are listening to me. Yeah. But then, oh, yay. People are listening to me. Oh, I love that. Okay. Thank you for coming onto the podcast, Candace. It was really, really fun. And we gotta do this again, you know? Yes, for sure. There's more to talk about. There always is. Oh, 100%. Yeah, for sure. And then we gotta come back. Eventually, but also when I hit that one year mark. Cool. Um, awesome listeners, I will talk to you in the next one. That's a wrap on another episode of Caffeinated Chaos. I hope you're leaving with a little more clarity, a lot more inspiration, and maybe even an extra shot of motivation. If you love today's episode, don't forget to follow us. Leave a review and share it with a friend who could use just a little chaos at caffeine in their life. Until next time, keep embracing the mess. Chase your dreams and make magic happen. One caffeinated, chaotic moment at a time. I will see you all soon. Bye now.